Scene #1385: A Little Chat

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Kotone Yamakawa	So it had been a hard day, the horror some very advanced civ had been stopped, still the duality of Zwei's hunger for information but being willing to not share a thing is not lost on her. One way or anotehr things are going to happen and she's too weak to challenge her anyway right now she muse as she moves into the bar looking for something to eat and just try to unwind she'd also dragged Rory along just so she can get out and see what the humans and others do to socialize it's good for learning right? "That ... was quite the day it seems we might need to get some upgrades at this rate..."
Rory White	Rory would almost certainly rather spend her time right now studying the tidbits of technology and material that she salvaged from that very incident... That might explain why she's developed a strangely fidgety habit of grabbing her lab coat near the pockets while walking around. What a bizarre little habit! But she's following after Kotone with the most awkward look on her face. And into a place as crazy as this? She appears to be a bit shy, given how close she's hovering nearby. "W-we do! Although... we come no closer to them by being out here. Are yo hungry?" She's not sure if Kotone still gets hungry! But maybe!
Staren	After a long night of Gun Gale Online, Staren is hungry for a midnight snack. He finds himself stepping into the Bar and Grill, shrugs, mentally vows to study how that works when he's less hungry, and heads on in, only to spot... "Rory? What are you here for? You don't eat..." And then he spots Kotone. "Oh... hey... I mean... hello, Kotone." He says, somewhat awkwardly. He's never really sure where he stands with her. "So. I take it you fought off an invasion of killbots from Zwei's world."
Kotone Yamakawa	Kotone Yamakawa says "Yes I adm maybe it's it just my ghost wanting what I used to need more of but it helps keep me sane really. Besides it's a good way to be social and I think better over food for some reason my family is pretty big on eating together when possible you know." She was not expecting Staren but for once she's not furstatd with him and she looks to him. "Yes, and she's being ... stubborn about letting us get a better idea of how to counter htem. She can't be eveyrhwhere at once I also noticed she loves... seeking out information but never sharing. The civilization that made her seems to be a black hole civ. Thing go in but nothing come out."
Rory White	"You never told me!" Rory points out a bit with a good-naturedly pouting tone. Only to spot Staren a few moments later. "Hello, Staren!" She chimes, attempting a happy wave his way. A bit over the top but she's at least trying more than earlier. Human contact is helping! She sighs a bit while hunting for a table with Kotone. "...I cannot understand what she is thinking!" The AGi fumes. Well, she can't understand a lot of people, but Zwei maybe least of all now.
Staren	Staren blinks. "She's an AI programmed by the military whose secrets you're asking to study. What do you expect?" He shrugs. "I mean, of /course/ I'd like to study the stuff too... but you can't expect appeals to good nature like 'it will help people' to work on /everyone/, can you? Orange chicken please." Staren raises a hand as a server passes by, then resumes his conversation. "You want my suggestion? She wants information and she's willing to trade for it. You have information you'd be willing to give away anyway for free. Why not see what you can get for it? Of course, anything she gives you will surely have all kinds of anti-tampering stuff on it, but..." he slowly shrugs. "I don't see what else we can do right now." He crosses his arms and lets out a little huff through his nose. "What threats appeared this time? Before it was invisible, shielded killbots, and then the next time it was some kind of mobile artillery squad."
Kotone Yamakawa	Kotone Yamakawa smirks "True you have a point I'm sorry." She sighs at what staren says but not at him. she's not mad with him at all. "I'm going to go for I think curry tonight myself. Either way you have it dead to rights. She's like their version of a military drone really and ya that's the problem. One I didn't even know she did stuff like that and to It could be booby trapped or have back doors in it. What I really wanted was it's nav systems so we could find out where these damn murder machines are coming from and shut it down. Naval warship with combat drones." Staren might notice there's a hle in Kotnes Shirt in a few places like she'd been shot or stabbed but since at least roughly patched up. "She's just going to make enemy of someone who just choses to take her down and carve her up for whatever they can get out of here. Look I seen what rogue warbots and command AIs can do and I suspect there's worse out there."
Rory White	And Staren's question catches Rory off-guard. She blinks a few times, remains eerily silent for a bit too long, then... "... What SHOULD I expect? I never thought about it." When the group finds a table she seats herself, hands folded neatly in her lap, but doesn't order anything. She can't eat, after all. But she doesn't declare this either. "It wasn't a naval warship. That was a spaceship that had been knocked out of orbit and survived a full atospheric entry and ocean landing with only some damage to the impacting side." Rory corrects Kotone.
Staren	Staren grabs a seat at a nearby table, though he turns it around to face the others. He crosses his arms when Kotone states her goal. "Where they're coming from? That would mean revealing her home galaxy's location /and/ the location Earth was moved to in that galaxy. Maybe she'd share the first one, but I'm pretty sure the location of Earth is a military secret. Well, beyond 'somewhere in the galactic core'," he unfolds his arms for the finger quotes. Staren listens to Kotone's concerns, ear flicking. "Taking her down and carving her up... Difficult but possible, in theory. But I bet her bodies are just as booby-trapped, to say nothing of the potential danger of taking her apart /wrong/... she uses singularities for power generation! And, of course, her mind isn't in either of those bodies. It's not like she's running on a cyberbrain. She's... I don't understand how they did it, but she's the technological equivalent of a ghost, a disembodied soul. I have no idea if she can get other bodies if she loses those though. We might be able to just ask her that." Staren turns to Rory. "How do militaries on your world act? I doubt they give out their secrets." He just hmms at the mention of the ship. "So what kind of spaceship /was/ it, then, if not a warship?"
Kotone Yamakawa	Kotone Yamakawa Says "Right remeber i'm the country bumpkin of the three of us, techinally I am even back home." She notes and then looks to STaren as he joins in. "True thats the problem and no I never said I'd do it or suggested but VT was right she's going to make enemies she doens't need to with her attuide. There are people who'd carve her up that wouldn't see any of us or her as people. Black Hole Engines? So much the same as me huh I'm a ghost in this shell after all. Depends on them really but she's reminding me of the Empire of America. They took all the worst Drek of the old usa then dialed it to 11. IS it any wonder the rest of what was America's working with Canada and The Russians."
Rory White	"I would hazard a guess that her kind of remote control works on some form of quantum entanglement. You wouldn't have the latency to achieve that level of coordination otherwise. Quantum bit 'transmissions' are instantaneous and care nothing about distance." She may not know how to MAKE quantum bits, but she knows what they do. She then tries to answer Staren's question but clams up just after opening her mouth... then there's another long pause. "Well... they are very paranoid about their movements and where they keep things, I suppose, but the technology itself.... certainly, the Jovian republic has the largest active military, but the technology they use isn't so advanced over everyone else's. I could fabricate the same types of weapons and armor they have..." Hence why she's confused about this technology gap, probably...
Staren	Staren sighs and scratches the back of his head. "Technological superiority is /important/ for a military. So, this 'Jovian Republic' doesn't have it, but what if they /did/? If you want to win wars, and you have Raiser rifles while your enemies are using regular lasers and slugthrowers, /you don't give your enemies the frikking plans/ to your awesome space guns! You fight wars to /win/, not to be /fair or honorable/." He sighs again, slumping back in his chair for a moment. "Not to mention the risk of people misusing technology, or, if shared insecurely, it falling into the wrong hands even if those aren't the hands you put it in. I don't give out the plans to the Second Gauntlet except to Union elites who know what they're doing. Do you know why?" He holds a hand out palm-up, as if they could place their answer to the question in his hand. "Sure, at first, I didn't want our /enemies in a war/ learning about the workings of Abstractum, because /that is a technological advantage/. Now we've made an agreement to share any knowledge we learn about Abstractum, but that doesn't mean giving out my tools." He sits up and leans forward slightly. "And I don't give out the Second Gauntlet because Confederate R&D is gonna use it on /people/. My best guess at what that'll do is, either someone will be eaten by a conceptual enemy from outside conventional space-time, they'll get /stuck/ outside reality, and even if they're brought back, they might be constantly changing forms, or stuck as something else, unable to return to normal. Hell, any researcher who's not careful might suffer the same fate!" He points at the floor a couple of times to punctuate his point. "Likewise, anyone careless about security might innocently let it fall into the wrong hands. Even technology I /want/ to share... It pains me that I can't publicly release brain uploading technology on my world, but I have /no/ idea what it will do to society. And the inequality it brings when it works for some people but not others could have... unpleasant repercussions. To say nothing of my enemies using it!" He clenches his hand into a raised fist. "You can use it to /trap someone in virtual reality and torture them endlessly, far beyond any potential limits of their body in real life, hell, you can kill them over and over again and make them go through it every time! Or just stick them in an empty world with noone around at all... or whatever sick, twisted thing someone can think up! /I/ thought of that immediately and /I'm/ a good guy, who knows what the Feds or some clever sicko out there might do? Somewhere out there is a guy who trapped ten thousand people in a virtual world for two years and let thousands die because he thought forcing people to experience his world was more important than their lives. There are surely others out there just as nuts and messed up!" He points again. Then, seeming to come to the end of his rant, he slumps back in his chair again. "So... while I'd love to study Zwei's stuff... and I'll try to get the opportunity sometime... I can understand why she doesn't share it."
Kotone Yamakawa	Kotone Yamakawa Says "I get it and sometimes it's not the best tech, you implment tech your troops have no idea mid way through a conflict? There were two puppet government over thrown in south america on my world that had the backing of the Empire of America. They lost and actual demoracies were restored who'd have thunk a Drug Lord would bank roll that and just vanish." She notes she sighs a little bit pondering about and listens about she just wants to stop the attacks for a moment. "Cause you can kill your self with Abstractium stuff if you both it? Look I just want to stop these automated kill bots from going out." She nods for a moment at th mention of ALO "That made some news back home and put some people into a fry though you sure your not going to go and then they will all see?" It's a joke and clearly in good humor. "YA there's been some vicous ghost hacks that left the victem a total mess not even sure of who they were anymore."
Rory White	"It's going to take me far too long to understand all the details of what you just said, Staren, but I'm recording to review it later!" Rory exclaims. Indeed, she just got factbombed and it's very hard to go through all of those details without going fuzzy-eyed and dropping out of the conersation while she does lookups on data she probably doesn't immediately have... "... Although I definitely understan much of that and agree for some things... it's true that even if things like the gauntlet SHOULD be open-sourced if it means helping a society, a mistake that costs you the ability to keep operating at all outweighs it for the short term..." She then shudders, thinking about some of the VR abuses being noticed. "... These kinds of crimes aren't news to me... but it's mostly in fiction!" ..Right? RIGHT? ...Hopefully?
Staren	Staren shrugs, then quirks a brow at Kotone. Then frowns, his voice growing cold. "Just because I go on about things and people don't listen, doesn't mean I'm going to hurt people out of some misguided sense of proving myself correct. Morals are the most important thing to me." It's a nerve that occasionally get struck. He looks at Rory. "'Mostly'? Even once is too many... although I wouldn't go so far as to say the technology should never be used because of the risk. There's just too much good it can do... Still, there's a responsibility, when sharing it, to at least try to keep it from being misused. ...Oh man finally, I'm starving!" As his bowl is delivered he turns his chair back around and starts to devour it.
Kotone Yamakawa	Kotone Yamakawa says "... Joke, humour look I been shot tonight and I'm trying to forget about that. Look I was just making a oke juse because you can sound like one doesn't mean you are." She gets her own curry and starts to eat it listening and htinking for the momrnt. "Look I was more concerned about figuring out how better to kill the next attack unit or how to stop them from coming when you get down to it and... I don't think I have a choice about not upgrading unless I duck off the stage of the multivse..."
Rory White	"That goes for both of us, Kotone. If I'm to keep responding to emergencies.. which I should... I'll need to spend more time preparing strategies and equipment in advance. Which means materials I don't have. Hopefully the Flotilla activities will take care of that problem!" She tries to cheer the conversation back up again with a smile! ... A slightly forced smile, but she's trying. "Hopefully that doesn't mean more mods to this Morph..." Again she looks at Staren, as if vaguely fascinated by the act of consumption itself. Or maybe weirded out. It's hard to say. "... This conversation's one it seems like... neither of us are suited for?" She offers, trying to affect meek amusement and only half-succeeding.
Staren	Staren stops to chew for a few moments, then half-turns to look back at Kotone. "Where they're coming from... they could be roaming anywhere in Zwei's home galaxy, or coming from Earth which as mentioned she'll probably not talk about. However, when it comes to /killing/ them... well, destroying them... /that/, I can help with. While replicating the exotic state of photons used in Raiser weaponry is beyond me, likewise whatever other technologies I could develop from an understanding of the mechanisms by which it is created and the massive amounts of energy required are stored... The effect on targets can be replicated. I think I can create some weapons that will be just as effective against those damn killbots. What form would you like them in? As for a body upgrade, I can reccomend someone from my world..." he thinks a moment, then shakes his head, "No, a combat body from my world is probably too expensive. I still think your best bet is to see if XCOM can work something out derived from meld and their MEC technology." He looks to Rory. "What materials do you not have that you need?" He shrugs at the comment about being unsuited. "Seems like I'm unsuited for most conversations."
Rory White	"Rolan..." Rory doesn't even have to finish that before her Muse is sending a file on the state of the Cognizant Odyssey's feedstock storage. Kotone also gets the file. There's plenty of iron, carbon, and other straightforward metals, but she's running low on heavier elements and various wacky gases. Most of it's used for advanced sensor equipment...
Kotone Yamakawa	Kotone Yamakawa looks at the sotck list and humms for a moment "Some of those might be able to be pulled from the ruins of old Tokyo they need demo work done there anyway. As for the gas I'm not sure." That was pretty damn quick for going over it. She looks to Staren. "Shockingly there are cheaper alteratives back home if XCOM can get the leverage as a legimate paramilaitary group I can get my hands on a combat grade body from Megatech. Yes horribly uninverntive name but they are also the best human mimics too ironically. I suspect it will need after factory mods though."